Weekly Discussion – Monday Memes

We all enjoy meditation memes, but it's frustrating when our front page is filled with them. In response to the recent user survey, please post your pictures and memes in this weekly thread instead. I promise you will still get karma.

Things like:

  • Jokes
  • Pretty pictures
  • Inspiring quotations overlaid on pretty pictures
  • Dogs and cats being dogs and cats

And any permutation of the above are encouraged here.

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Weekly Discussion – June 08 2020

This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

Questions

Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

Discussion

Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

My experience with the Microcosmic Orbit meditation by Mantak Chia

Good day friends,

I write to you on this beautifully sunny day (hope the sun is shining with you too!) about my experience meditating this morning.

I followed a meditation called 'The microcosmic orbit meditation' today, if you have heard of Mantak Chia, it is a taoist meditation technique that directs chi (your internal energy) from the space between your navel, down to the perineum, up your back to the top of the head, then back down through to the navel itself (passing through the other energetic points along the way).

It takes a bit of visualization skill to make it work at first, to see the energy dancing through the body and growing more vibrant.

I found it difficult to focus on breathing and visualization at the same time.

~But at the end of the meditation, I felt balanced, refreshed and renewed. Highly recommend it for anyone looking to balance themselves out, or to recharge their 'batteries' 🙂

Here's a link if you'd like to have a look at it: https://www.energygatesqigong.us/cosmic-healing/microcosmic-orbit.html

PS. I am not a student of Mantak, am not paid to endorse his products. I just really enjoy learning about Taoist meditative practices!

Weekly Discussion – Monday Memes

We all enjoy meditation memes, but it's frustrating when our front page is filled with them. In response to the recent user survey, please post your pictures and memes in this weekly thread instead. I promise you will still get karma.

Things like:

  • Jokes
  • Pretty pictures
  • Inspiring quotations overlaid on pretty pictures
  • Dogs and cats being dogs and cats

And any permutation of the above are encouraged here.

Please note that from now on, these will be removed during the rest of the week and you will be told to post in the weekly thread instead.

Thank you everyone for your cooperation as we try to focus our subreddit around productive conversations about meditation.

Weekly Discussion – Monday Memes

We all enjoy meditation memes, but it's frustrating when our front page is filled with them. In response to the recent user survey, please post your pictures and memes in this weekly thread instead. I promise you will still get karma.

Things like:

  • Jokes
  • Pretty pictures
  • Inspiring quotations overlaid on pretty pictures
  • Dogs and cats being dogs and cats

And any permutation of the above are encouraged here.

Please note that from now on, these will be removed during the rest of the week and you will be told to post in the weekly thread instead.

Thank you everyone for your cooperation as we try to focus our subreddit around productive conversations about meditation.

Feeling lost. Need guidance/ help.

Hey fellow meditators,

I have been meditating for the last 4 years, mostly concentration meditation where I try to focus my concentration on the breadth or just the void in front my eyes (while closed). I have done 2x Goenka retreats in past 4 years but have focusing on the concentration technique before I get into the sweeping practice.

My sits last for 45 minutes and they are mixed bag. Every other day, minor concentration builds where the mind is focused on the empty void (in front my closed eyes) and it feels as if I am going to get sucked in, but then nothing happens beyond that. Sometimes, I feel a rush of energy through my thighs and hands, but it fizzles out within 5-10 seconds. This has happened many a times, may be hundreds, but nothing ever happens beyond that point. Other times, the mind wanders incessantly, thinking about work, markets, relationships, food, past, future, just about everything else.

I really need guidance at this point of time. Unsure how to make some gains from here. My short term goal is to build good concentration and land up into Jhana states. Long term, understand the 3 characteristics and enlightenment.

At a macro level, my life has changed for better after undertaking meditation as daily practice. Stress levels are low. Strong material urges have subsided. I do get the pangs sometimes like to buy the latest gizmos but they fizzle out if I consciously do not pay much attention. I don’t think much about other’s opinion of me. On the work front, I don’t really seek the next promotion or evaluate how my next action would impact my promotion possibilities (I used to think about that a lot earlier). Now, it’s more about getting things done, helping colleagues, learning new things and moving on. So overall, I am extremely pleased with the macro gains.

However, I need help with the practice and little bit of guidance to assess where do I need to make some changes. Any help/guidance with respect to the practice, habits, book recommendations, videos, discourses etc would be very much appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Meditation as a lifestyle or…

For me meditation is more like a mindset of attention where i notice my thoughts and feelings without arguing with them, and less about doing the same thing while sitting in the crossed legged position while focusing on the breath/body sensations.

This has a lot to do with the limited number of hours during a day and its hard squeezing in that time between work, family etc.

It is not impossible though so i wonder what your thoughts are. How important is the actual act of sitting down, taking the time and space for yourself in comparison to having an attentive mind as much as possible in your everyday life?

I realize that one doesn't exclude the other and that they are connected but for the sake of argument, lets pretend that we have to choose one or the other and focus on that. Which would you choose?

I am not me, and you’re not you

maybe only few of you would get what I really mean by the title, not because few are smarter or special then others but more likely because I believe that only few have been through the same experience that lead me to write those words, I am sure of that because if there was more than "few" then otherwise the world wouldn't have been the way it is now.

the title is my best attempt to put into words what I believe is the absolute truth but to many of you, my words may sound like non-sens or even contradictory and that's legit because they are, but since I am quite aware of that then why would I've used them anyway? the answer is that I don't have any other way to share the truth with you other than by using "language" which makes it impossible. I am saying that, few of us have seen how the universe is really is and you'd be astonished to see… to the point that you'd inevitably ask the question "how is it possible no one has told the world about this discovery before?" but you'll end up understanding why by yourself as soon as you try to share what you saw with other people and see yourself fail at each attempt.

I am now convinced that it is impossible for me or anyone else who may had the chance to experience what they believe to be the truth to share it with others and that's all because of our langage, it simply doesn't offer us a way to do it…our vocabulary is too limited and was based on a false interpretation of the world making any statement that describes the truth as irrelevant for our analytical mind, thus each time I try to keep note of my spiritual experiences I end up verbalizing it into contradictory statements like:
-I am not me
-I am free only when I am controlled
-the world is within me
-you and me are the same

after all, think of it, if there was a way to share the truth with words then everyone would have been awaken today. The truth has always been said by many philosophers, traditions ancestors, spiritual guides, awaken people…, in books, manuals, speechs and on every other possible canal of communication, it is us who are not able to understand it because we've always relied on "definitions" while the truth can only be understood through self realization and that's achievable only when you manage to detach from language.

to the few who understands exactly what I mean by my contradictory title, me and you understands each other only because we both have been through the same experience before, it's like two friends chatting about how beautiful Thailand is, if one of the two hasn't visited Thailand then the one who went there will probably tries to share his travel experience with the one who didn't but no matter how hard he tries, you have to visit Thailand to understand what is like to experience how beautiful it is, in other words, it is possible to share how Thailand is beautiful only to someone who already have knew it through a past experience so whenever two people who both visited thailand start chatting about how Thailand is beautiful they're just recalling their own past experiences rather then sharing, both relates to the conversation making it meaningful for them. they're like we say: on the same page.

to the many who may think that what I am saying is ambiguous and difficult to read, this is just me trying my best to share with you throughout language what you should absolutely know. I know I am failing to make you understand but my post on reddit might be the reason you engage into a spiritual journey that will lead you to the same conclusion as I and one day you may come back here and say "hmm I understand now".

I am not an awaken person I am still lost into the illusions my mental creates for me everyday like everybody else, but I believe I've tasted awakening, don't ask me how do I know that because the answer is as irrelevant as "when you taste it you immediatly know it", It does happen to me very rarely but when I reach a very profound meditative state the world opens to me through a different door, I understand that life as I I always know it is nothing but a big lie and that I am not who I think I am, this happens when you reach stillness and manage to completely ignore your thoughts spontaneously, you reach a state of quiet in which your mental has no more grip on you and that's when you realize that you're not your body, your thoughts, your beliefs, fears…you're something way bigger yet way simpler, you're something that cannot be described and you are only capable of doing one single task which is "observing" or "witnessing", it is not even a task but a nature, you just be, how is that ? when you reach full consciousness you'll be shocked by the fact you're not the one in commands of your body's movements and your brain's thoughts, your body can walk, talk, think very well without you being present, your body is controlled by something else. but your mental makes you believe you are the one who's controlling it because the mental is also not you and he doesn't want you to put your hands on the truth because that would mean his death, the ego death, and you may imagine that it might be frighting to discover that your body moves without your permissions but the reality is that it's quite the opposite, as soon as you realize that YOU're not you, a bliss fills you up, happiness and sadness exists no more, there's something else, something I'll never be able to describe, all I can tell you about is that it is worth more than anything else in this life and if you never find this "something" you'll just be living into a complete illusion until you the day you die. awakening is accepting that all we have to do is just observing, our life is a movie and our body is the main character but it's is not us, we're the spectator, the one who should be watching the movie rather than relating to the main character and thinking/judging his decisions.

All I say here is too irrational for our habitual way of thinking and I myself end up qualifying my own spiritual experiences by "imaginary" as soon as days passes, but I always still have that consciousness that I've awakened since the first time I managed to enter the deep state of meditation, it is that consciousness who knows that I am manipulated by the mental, and as far as that consciousness still lives in you, you can always return to it, sometimes you can expand it for a period of time and come to some very interesting realizations but sometimes (most of the time) it is your mental who wins the fight, an awaken person is someone who managed to transcend his mental and expanded that consciousness from a tiny point to a full state of being.

Personal meditation of the day

It is human nature to be fearful of what we do not understand. Be inquisitive and open yourself to breaking down those judgements- it may result in better understanding and personal growth.